Stepan Zemtsov, Senior Researcher, Innovation Economic Department of the Gaidar Institute, took part in a talk show “In the meantime. Values” moderated by Alexander Arkhangelsky at TV Channel “Russia K” (Kultura).  
The topic of the talk show was titled “Fight for climate or die”. Responding to questions of moderator, Stepan Zemtsov highlighted that process of climate changes is not doubted in general by community of climate experts. This is proved by reports of Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which received a Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.
Disputes start when it comes to the role of anthropogenic activity, carbon dioxide emissions in these processes. In 2018, William Nordhaus received Nobel Prize in Economics, having demonstrated a link between CO2 emissions and negative effects on economy and population: the higher the emissions are, the lower the life expectancy is. In addition, pollution control costs are rising as well as disaster risks while  long-term economic growth declines.
Environmental costs and risks of climate change increase, especially for northern latitudes of Russia. Permafrost thawing, increase in number of dangerous natural phenomena, growth of mortality resulted from environmental pollution present objective, statistically recorded processes that take place in this country. Therefore, Russia needs to adapt to ongoing processes regardless of whether they were caused by nature or human activity.
At the same time, half a century before Greta Thunberg showed up, Simon Kuznets, Nobel laureate in economics and our ex- fellow countryman, talked about a decrease of anthropogenic influence along with the economic development of society (the Kuznets’ curve): demand for clean environment and longevity is going up,  introduction of resource-saving technologies grows, relevant institutions arise, etc.
William Nordhaus considers that new institutions and technologies shall partially solve the issue of anthropogenic impact. One of these institutions signifies emissions trading (the Kyoto Agreement),  establishment of relevant NGOs: Greenpeace Russia, WWF, SDSN Russia as well as adoption of more stringent environmental standards (Euro-6).
Stepan Zemtsov pointed out: “Our study showed that growth of environmental problems and depletion of growth capacity of the raw materials model in Russia require development of new tools of socio-economic policy taking into account goals of sustainable development.”  Developed countries reduce emissions, save resources, restore forests while developing countries still move in the opposite direction. However, in general, environmental efficiency of global economy is growing.
According to Stepan Zemtsov, share of renewable energy sources is declining in Russia although in 1998-2017 sustainable development combining growth of GRP per capita and environmental efficiency was observed for more than half of the period in question in most regions of Russia. “To spread this model, it will be necessary to attract investments in the high-tech sector, increase energy efficiency through new financial instruments, develop renewable energy sources and introduce concept of an eco-city,”